Blog Post 7: Reflection on Week 6 Class and on Week 7 Readings

I think the increase of group discussions and seminar-like courses have really enhanced my learning experiences throughout my years in university because they foster discussions that make you think about how you interpret material compared to how others with different experiences do. That is why I found this class so helpful in helping me to understand how different approaches to group discussions can have different effects on the outcomes. With the LEO exercise, I found it helpful to see that I mostly aligned in thinking with most of the people that shared the objective I had had, but I found it more helpful to understand the reading from the various perspectives of our jigsaw group. One of the points that our group made was that by approaching a text in this way, we were forced to think in a different way, due to the objective of our LEO, which led to some interesting revelations, but discussions with others that had gone through similar ways of thinking for various objectives provided even more perspectives for us to think about. These varying roles led to open discussions not only about the text but about the approach to these perspectives and the issues that some had with them because of how they think as individuals.

I think that these small groups prior to large class discussions also allow for more voices to be heard because we are more comfortable working out our confusions in smaller groups which can give us confidence to speak to the group at large and those that do not feel comfortable in speaking to the big group often catch the attention of others in smaller groups, which allows for their thoughts to still be heard. Our final discussion about the readings in the small group really opened up how even groups of five or six can have greatly varying perspectives on the same information. It was also interesting to see which questions fostered decent amounts of discussion while others seemed to just fall dead.

I think my largest issue with Marc Prensky’s article is that he seems to disregard some of the issues that arise with going all-digital in a university because his major example for said position did not go through. While Prensky’s argument was valid when he made it in 2011 about South Korea planning to go fully electronic with their textbooks by 2015, the country reneged from this stance just four months after Prensky made his post. I think that some of Prensky’s ideas would be extremely interesting in a learning environment if they could be implemented, I spent most of the article questioning what access would look like in this digital university and how such collaborations would work as time passed. He seemed to dismiss the argument about screen fatigue in his article as well, which seemed like an interesting thing to do. I am one of those people that prefers to read on paper, not because I get some nostalgia from doing so as he would suggest, but because reading constantly from a screen gives me migraines and I tend to remember more reading from paper than I do from a screen. Now, I have actively worked against this to consume more information electronically, but I still hold that paper has an important place in higher education still.

Another example he used to bolster his argument laid with the surge of electronic materials in comparison to print materials being created and distributed. While it is true that these electronic sources caused a dip in print productions for several years, recently print materials have made a resurgence. Still, my thoughts go back to access regardless. At the end of this article I was left with the following questions:

  • What about when students leave the university?
  • On most campuses, when alumni leave the university connectivity privileges are revoked or, at least, come at a fee. Would this trend be altered in this all-digital university?
  • If a campus is truly going digital, and replacing physical books with electronic versions, are they also providing equal access to devices for students to use?

Interested in learning more about the Socratic Seminar, I read the following readings from the provided selection: Metzger ,1998, “Teaching Reading: Beyond the Plot; Tredway, 1995, “Socratic Seminars.” Educational Leadership; Chowning. 2005, “Socratic Seminars in Science Class.” HHS Public Access. I think it was helpful to see how these three readings worked and referenced one another because they continuously built on the same idea to provide a fuller picture of how such seminars could be helpful in the classroom and how they could properly be conducted by an instructor. While I have been in courses where seminar-like discussions are the norm, the type of structuring introduced in the Socratic Seminar is not one that is fully familiar to me. I think that many of these discussion-based classes strived for this type of learning, but, for many reasons, fell short of the goal because they did not know how to adapt when something wasn’t working.

I seemed to take one main idea from each of these readings and a fuller understanding of the Socratic Seminar as a whole from the culmination of the three. From Metzger, I found the idea of the inner and outer circle to hold an interesting place. “Peer pressure worked in the favor of education” by not only providing formative feedback but by enhancing the ability to take notes and comment on how to improve while allowing students to hold one another responsible for work and to guide class in a way that their needs were met (Metzger, 243). Tredway emphasized how this could work by discussing the key of the Socratic Seminar: focusing on the “why.” By focusing on motivation and emotion, these types of discussions allow for students to connect to the ideas more fully and enables them to mature as students. Still, neither of these would be helpful if it weren’t for Chowning’s comment about remaining in the realm of evidence-based reasoning. Motivation, emotion, and peer observation are important to keeping students connected and engaged, but this means nothing if the information they are engaging with leaves the realm of evidence-based reasoning. Therefore, the three works connect with one another to help enhance the argument about the importance of the Socratic Seminar and to allow both the learner and the instructor to see how these types of discussions can be beneficial in the classroom.

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4 thoughts on “Blog Post 7: Reflection on Week 6 Class and on Week 7 Readings”

  1. I really like your point about the value of the LEOs increasing when they are mixed together, that we benefit not only from being forced to consider an issue from a new perspective (as we are when filling out a LEO) but also, and even more so, from comparing our LEO experiences with people who had had different roles for the activity. I think I sometimes get too focused on the content of the discussion and forget to think about/take notes on/reflect on the form of the discussion, and your reflection was a good reminder to do that.

    I, too, found Metzger’s point about peer pressure to be a fascinating one. Peer pressure (especially among children) is so often seen as an unmitigated negative that I think we forget that peer pressure (like bias) is not inherently good or bad. Rather, it’s a mechanism for socialization and social equilibrium, and as long as it pushes people toward a position we value, it can be a powerful and valuable force. Which is not to say that playground peer pressure does not often trend toward the negative, but it seems helpful to consider it from both sides, and Metzger’s harnessing of it to foster productive, respectful literary discussion seems like a good starting point.

    Your concerns about access in the Prensky-world digital university are also really important, and ones that I hadn’t considered (having gotten caught up in the blatant disregard for personal freedom and property). But they are in no way less important, which is why I’m really glad you brought them up–one more thing to rail against if I am ever again called upon to comment on this article.

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  2. I’m glad that you pointed out the strain that staring at a screen all day has on our eyes. I get migraines occasionally too and even without these complications it’s not good for our eyes to look at electronic screens all of the time. There is also research to prove that physical text is better than electronic in terms of helping people remember things better, another point you mention. I often find that reading a physical text allows me to interact with it differently and remember it better than a screen where there are many distractions and I have to move the screen around.

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  3. I will forever be a supporter of small-group chat, but it doesn’t always work perfectly. Sometimes the conversation moves so fast, it’s hard to get a word in. Or in general it just sucks for some people because they don’t feel like talking or feel they have nothing to add and then they are more likely to feel pressure to say something (I mean, I maybe have felt like this a time or two). So I think having LEOs to guide our discussions made it easier to talk evenly among members – it meant each of us got a chance to talk about our role and what it meant to us as learners. I can’t remember now what mine was for this 2nd week we used them, but it definitely was like “Just think about this however you want” or something extremely vague. So it was nice to be able to get reassurance from the group but also hear thoughts about in which situations this type of thinking might be more useful (or for what types of thinkers).

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  4. I love the convenience of digital textbooks, but like you, I absorb info better from paper. The shift to all-digital isn’t always smooth, especially when professors assign endless online readings. When I was drowning in assignments, I looked into getting some help with take my online class for me just to stay afloat. It’s crazy how much easier it is to focus when you’re not completely overwhelmed.

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